A failed lesson from the old school of used car management

by dpollak on 09/25/2009 · View Comments

Below is a posting that I found on another social media site. It represents a sad and all too real old-school view of the used car business. Please read the comments by Mike Warwick and my response:

vAuto is a useful tool but dealerships that rely on it exclusively are INSANE. We found in our dealer group that our highest gross occurs on day 42. Using the Velocity approach, we would have blown most vehicles out and left tons of money on the table. Your DMS should provide you with your highest grossing day. Take that number and compare it to what vAuto suggests for pricing. It’s pretty eye opening. With prices through the roof at the auctions, leaving money on the table in favor of a quicker turn doesn’t seem like a great idea at this point. The price of the replacement is likely to be higher than the vehicle you just took a short gross on.

Mike, you’ve got it all wrong. I hope that your gross on day 42 is really huge because the velocity dealer with whom you compete has typically sold 2 to 2.5 units in the first 42 days while you’re waiting on your first big one. You see, the way you make money today in the used car business is to go from money to metal, money to metal, and money to metal as fast as you can. Not only does this maximize total gross and net profit return, but it also reduces your exposure to the risk of volatility from the ever changing used car market. In other words, the currency of your inventory is critical to reducing risk. You can’t afford to be caught long on yesterday’s cars.

Regarding your suggestion that the replacement vehicles will come at a higher cost, so what, get over it. It sounds to me that you’re more of a speculator than a retailer. You see, retailers aren’t interested in playing the market but rather focused on putting money to work to create front end gross, back end gross and long-term customer service and referral relationships. So long as you can keep the dollars turning and generating returns, you’re doing what you’ve been hired to do.

Oh, one more thing Michael, what will you do with those cars that don’t sell in 42 days for their maximum gross? I’m sure they don’t all sell on day 42, so do you start pricing down after 42 days? If you do, and eventually sell the cars on day 50 or 60 at a lower gross profit, you don’t look so smart then, do you?

Mike, your velocity competitors applaud you and your group’s approach to the used car business. From their perspective, you should keep doing exactly what you described.

  • Bill P.
    Dale

    Great response on your blog I am stunned that someone would challenge you at this point on velocity! We are having a great year in a down economy we will sell 3000 used cars this year.

    The end result is I look at net profit not gross profit at the end of the day.

    The auto industry is finally graded on net not gross!

    If someone questions you again just let them know why your phone rings around the clock with people looking for a magical pill to fix their dealerships problems most of those calls are not for gross profit but for NET PROFIT !

    Thanks for all your help

    In 2007 we sold 509 used! the 3000 units we sell this year is a whole hell of a lot more fun!

    Your greatest velocity fan Bill Pearson Finish Line Ford
  • kkocourek
    Dale ,

    Please follow my math.

    Our four stores currently average 15.46 turns per year. We are selling 170 units per month combined. That's up from 120 when we started with V-Auto in January. We are averaging $1,050 per car.

    If we would sell every car at 42 days our turn would decrease to 8.69 turns. 365 days per year divided by 42 equals 8.69.

    The average investment in our cars is $11,500. If we turn our cars 15.46 times at $1050 per car we have $15,460 in gross per car for an entire year. If we reduce the turn to 8.69 at the end of the same period we have $8,690 in total gross. Not discounting the fact that you won't sell all your cars at the optimum 42 days. If we then multiply the difference in total gross ( $15,460-$8,690= $6,770 ) times the units we sell ($6,770 x 170 units = $1,150,900 ) at year end we will have $1,150,900 in additional gross. I might also add we won't have an unrealized loss on our balance sheet at year end because of unrealized wholesale losses.

    Send " Bubba" to central Wisconsin. I would love to compete with him and his 42 day gross fantasy. Of course, I would be using V-Auto to look at his inventory pricing and undercut him at 41 days. So much for his big gross. He would be scratching his head looking at all that aged inventory going down in value and wondering what the hell just happened.
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