10,000 What?

by dpollak on 10/27/2009 · 20 comments

On October 20th I posted Incoming wake up call. In this posting I spoke about dealer Keith Kocourek’s impressive jump in used car market penetration relative to his competition.

Just in case anyone thinks that improvement happens by accident, below I am posting another communication that I received from Kocourek yesterday. In Kocourek’s latest note he celebrates the success of achieving 10,000 VDPs from his AutoTrader investment. Today, most dealerships don’t know what a VDP is, or have any clue as to whether they should get 10, 10,000 or 10,000,000 per month. The fact that Kocourek is celebrating this achievement suggests that he is in control and command of the conditions that lead to online success. He knows what most dealers do not, and he’s benefiting from his knowledge and control of the variables that really drive performance improvement.

I’ve come to understand that in the increased complexity of the used car business there are a multitude of new things that matter, many of which are outside of the scope of current management attention, for example SRPs and VDPs. OK, for a simple 101 lesson on SRPs and VDPs. SRP stands for Search Results Page and VDP stands for Vehicle Detail Page. When a shopper on a classified advertising site views a page of inventory resulting from a search, and your vehicle is on one of those pages, it constitutes an SRP. If they find your vehicle so compelling so as to click on it for more details, that counts for a vehicle detail page, VDP.

Why does this matter? Because an SRP is the virtual equivalent of a shopper driving by your dealership and a VDP is the virtual equivalent of somebody coming in off that street and saying, “I want to take a closer look at that car.” Can you imagine running your dealership without knowledge of the drive by’s or walk-ins? Well, if you don’t know SRPs and VDPs you’re missing the virtual equivalent of these two critical pieces of information.

Kocourek knows that just as there is a mathematical correlation between the number of walk-ins and the number of vehicles sold, there is also a mathematical correlation between how many SRPs convert to VDPs. Further, Kocourek knows that there are five factors that drive SRPs, four of them in his control. So stop and think about Kocourek’s improvement. He’s driving success by controlling variables of which most dealerships are completely unaware.

Take a few moments and read the exchange between Kocourek and me below. Take note of his reference to “Dwayne” and “Digital Debbie”. These are not actual names of individuals, but rather names that velocity dealers have coined for individuals tasked with specific new functions and responsibilities. In other words the “Dwayne” and “Digital Debbie” positions have well defined and consistent job descriptions, responsibilities and performance measurements. A so-called “Dwayne” or “Digital Debbie” can pickup and move from one velocity store to another without skipping a beat. It is this type of standard discipline and measurement that I am passionate about implementing in velocity minded dealerships around the country.

Congratulations to Kocourek, his managers, AutoTrader and his AutoTrader rep for driving to the critical performance of achieving 10,000 VDPs!

Dale – Huge, Huge, Huge jump in VDP’s this month, we are tracking for over 10,000 for the first time ever…..Almost hard to believe. Keith

Keith – This is an amazing performance given the size of your market. Dale

Dale – The early model listings just started on Friday. I will keep you up to date on how that works. We are working to become VDP masters. We are starting videos w/cheese at the Ford store. We will track the results against the Chevrolet store using Liquid auto.

I am meeting with our GM’s tomorrow to put a process in place to hire Digital Debbie and streamline Dwayne’s responsibilities in all four stores. We are planning on making one person responsible for all four stores in both of those positions……That makes it really, really cheap. Keith
 
 

 

 

 

 10,000 What?
  • http://usedcarking.com/ Joe Pistell

    Great work KK! I had to dig in to see what’s goin’ on out there in WI.

    Your 10,000 Vehicle Detail Page views were created with 225 units in stock*. This means 43 Veh icle detail page views per unit in stock. Whaaa??! WOW!

    Good gosh, let me reiterate. Each month, for every unit Kocourek has for sale on AT, it got 43 looks. Wow. 43:1 is a sick number! I’ll guess that an average dealer’s number that’s about 5:1. …Gulp.

    How large is Kocourek’s used car market -and- how large is Kocourek in their market? Let’s look around!

    Kocourek‘s home store has a zipcode of 54401. On AutoTrader, lets weed out the junk & count 2000’s and newer units. Let’s throw a 25 mile circle Kocourek’s zipcode. AutoTrader shows 1,304 used units for sale. Kocourek has 224 of those, so they have 17% of the used units for sale in their local market place. Now that is a very big fish indeed. (in a 50 mile radius, KK has 8%)

    Win – Win… and win some more.
    Kocourek clearly is the 500lb gorilla in its market. It has inventory size and depth. I’ve said it here before, “inventory sells inventory”**. Along with big selection comes excellent branding and a great mix of franchises. So, when an AutoTrader visitor sifts through the Search Results Pages (SRP’s), Kocourek’s branding jumps out. In all likely hood, the shopper already knows who Kocourek is, so, the path from SRP to VDP is easier.

    Ok, Kocourek is hitting on all cylinders; it has Velocity pricing, inventory mass & brand leverage. But… What good is a Vehicle Detail Page visit if the page is all… dirty?

    Kocourek smacks another one over the fence!
    Once you get on their VDP***, their photos are all choreographed wonderfully, the Installed Options are smoking hot, clean and easy to read. The seller comments are there …ahem… you gotta read the ***link below, go easy on the caffeine and use spell ck! Haha!

    If I could find any fault at all, it’s minor. Upgrade your cameras to wide angle 28mm’s and take your interior shots somewhere it’s shady (the sun creates “hot spots” that washout the details).

    Clearly, Kocourek has their Velocity game on! Kudos to KK!

    *Inventory:

    **Inventory sells inventory:

    ***AutoTrader Ad:

  • http://usedcarking.com Joe Pistell

    Great work KK! I had to dig in to see what’s goin’ on out there in WI.

    Your 10,000 Vehicle Detail Page views were created with 225 units in stock*. This means 43 Veh icle detail page views per unit in stock. Whaaa??! WOW!

    Good gosh, let me reiterate. Each month, for every unit Kocourek has for sale on AT, it got 43 looks. Wow. 43:1 is a sick number! I’ll guess that an average dealer’s number that’s about 5:1. …Gulp.

    How large is Kocourek’s used car market -and- how large is Kocourek in their market? Let’s look around!

    Kocourek‘s home store has a zipcode of 54401. On AutoTrader, lets weed out the junk & count 2000’s and newer units. Let’s throw a 25 mile circle Kocourek’s zipcode. AutoTrader shows 1,304 used units for sale. Kocourek has 224 of those, so they have 17% of the used units for sale in their local market place. Now that is a very big fish indeed. (in a 50 mile radius, KK has 8%)

    Win – Win… and win some more.
    Kocourek clearly is the 500lb gorilla in its market. It has inventory size and depth. I’ve said it here before, “inventory sells inventory”**. Along with big selection comes excellent branding and a great mix of franchises. So, when an AutoTrader visitor sifts through the Search Results Pages (SRP’s), Kocourek’s branding jumps out. In all likely hood, the shopper already knows who Kocourek is, so, the path from SRP to VDP is easier.

    Ok, Kocourek is hitting on all cylinders; it has Velocity pricing, inventory mass & brand leverage. But… What good is a Vehicle Detail Page visit if the page is all… dirty?

    Kocourek smacks another one over the fence!
    Once you get on their VDP***, their photos are all choreographed wonderfully, the Installed Options are smoking hot, clean and easy to read. The seller comments are there …ahem… you gotta read the ***link below, go easy on the caffeine and use spell ck! Haha!

    If I could find any fault at all, it’s minor. Upgrade your cameras to wide angle 28mm’s and take your interior shots somewhere it’s shady (the sun creates “hot spots” that washout the details).

    Clearly, Kocourek has their Velocity game on! Kudos to KK!

    *Inventory:

    **Inventory sells inventory:

    ***AutoTrader Ad:

  • http://www.polarchev.com/ bill krouse

    Great work Keith-As you know from our August meeting in Chicago where we compared AT “scorecards” I promised to have my local rep. keep up with our group “composite” which i will email you shortly. It compares activity for a three month period ending in July with a three month period ending in September. What jumps out at the Hyundai/Kia store is an increase of 50,732 SRPI’s and a 52% increase in VDP’s with only a 22 unit increase in average inventory size in the 3 month period. Once again we look forward to “hosting” your guys whenever you want to come and we look forward to pickling your brains-you are really rockin’!

  • http://www.polarchev.com bill krouse

    Great work Keith-As you know from our August meeting in Chicago where we compared AT “scorecards” I promised to have my local rep. keep up with our group “composite” which i will email you shortly. It compares activity for a three month period ending in July with a three month period ending in September. What jumps out at the Hyundai/Kia store is an increase of 50,732 SRPI’s and a 52% increase in VDP’s with only a 22 unit increase in average inventory size in the 3 month period. Once again we look forward to “hosting” your guys whenever you want to come and we look forward to pickling your brains-you are really rockin’!

  • http://alanwebbnissan.com/ james lee

    We are currently using autotrader. We are not on Cars.com. Is it worth the investment? Congrats on the VDP’s

  • http://alanwebbnissan.com james lee

    We are currently using autotrader. We are not on Cars.com. Is it worth the investment? Congrats on the VDP’s

  • dpollak

    Bill,
    Thanks for your note. I might point out to the other readers that the dialog going on here is the new language of used car management.

  • dpollak

    Bill,
    Thanks for your note. I might point out to the other readers that the dialog going on here is the new language of used car management.

  • kkocourek

    Thank You for the kind comments.

    Joe, Great photo ideas. We will get on it quickly. Great analysis. Thank you.

    Bill, I will call you in a week or so to set up a visit to your store. Great info on the three month comparison, thank you.

    Are any of you headed to the Digital Dealer meeting next week? I would love to kick around some more Velocity ideas.

    I met Dale at a twenty group meeting last January. At that time our internet process was a joke. We have worked hard to transform our dealerships into “internet dealerships”. With a bunch of help from Dale and his V-Auto staff we are really starting to see some strong results. The thing I really like is the ability to manage my business using fact’s and metrics versus Bubba logic and Tarot Cards.

    Dale, thank you for your help your support and your friendship.

    Keith Kocourek

  • kkocourek

    Thank You for the kind comments.

    Joe, Great photo ideas. We will get on it quickly. Great analysis. Thank you.

    Bill, I will call you in a week or so to set up a visit to your store. Great info on the three month comparison, thank you.

    Are any of you headed to the Digital Dealer meeting next week? I would love to kick around some more Velocity ideas.

    I met Dale at a twenty group meeting last January. At that time our internet process was a joke. We have worked hard to transform our dealerships into “internet dealerships”. With a bunch of help from Dale and his V-Auto staff we are really starting to see some strong results. The thing I really like is the ability to manage my business using fact’s and metrics versus Bubba logic and Tarot Cards.

    Dale, thank you for your help your support and your friendship.

    Keith Kocourek

  • http://vAuto.com/ dpollak

    James,

    Thanks for your note. The first question is how effectively are you performing on AutoTrader? If you’d like to send me the following information, I can help you answer the question. I’d recommend that you provide the following information for October, once it is complete and email it directly to me at dpollak@vauto.com:

    Screen shots of your AutoTrader back end reporting tool for both the Executive Summary and Performance Summary tabs, number of used vehicles retailed in October (from your financials), and what package you advertise with (Premium, standard…).

    Thanks.

  • http://vAuto.com dpollak

    James,

    Thanks for your note. The first question is how effectively are you performing on AutoTrader? If you’d like to send me the following information, I can help you answer the question. I’d recommend that you provide the following information for October, once it is complete and email it directly to me at dpollak@vauto.com:

    Screen shots of your AutoTrader back end reporting tool for both the Executive Summary and Performance Summary tabs, number of used vehicles retailed in October (from your financials), and what package you advertise with (Premium, standard…).

    Thanks.

  • http://alanwebbnissan.com/ james lee

    Dale thx I will send that off to you next week after we wrap up.

  • http://alanwebbnissan.com james lee

    Dale thx I will send that off to you next week after we wrap up.

  • http://vAuto.com/ dpollak

    Jon,

    You’re absolutely right, thank you for your comment. I guess what really intrigues me is the fact that unlike VDP conversions, which seem to operate in a fairly tight range between 3-4 and sometimes 5%, there is a huge variance among dealers in SRPs. This is something that I have begun to spend a lot of time analyzing and I think that I have found some answers.

    I always thought that once a dealer sent his check off to AutoTrader or Cars.com, their job was done and now it was time for the site provider to “do their thing”. The answer is really anything but that. Rather the dealer has only paid to get in the game. It becomes his or her responsibility to control the controllables. Unfortunately, however, far too few dealers understand this fact, let alone know what the controllables are. This is something that I believe strongly needs to be understood throughout the industry, and I’ll be working hard at doing that over the course of the coming year. Thanks for your valuable insights and contributions.

    Dale

  • http://vAuto.com dpollak

    Jon,

    You’re absolutely right, thank you for your comment. I guess what really intrigues me is the fact that unlike VDP conversions, which seem to operate in a fairly tight range between 3-4 and sometimes 5%, there is a huge variance among dealers in SRPs. This is something that I have begun to spend a lot of time analyzing and I think that I have found some answers.

    I always thought that once a dealer sent his check off to AutoTrader or Cars.com, their job was done and now it was time for the site provider to “do their thing”. The answer is really anything but that. Rather the dealer has only paid to get in the game. It becomes his or her responsibility to control the controllables. Unfortunately, however, far too few dealers understand this fact, let alone know what the controllables are. This is something that I believe strongly needs to be understood throughout the industry, and I’ll be working hard at doing that over the course of the coming year. Thanks for your valuable insights and contributions.

    Dale

  • http://www.milesauto.com/ Kip Miles

    Dale, I am a ‘break it down to the simpliest number’ guy. If you divide KK’s 10,000 VDP by his 225 unit inventory you come up with 44.4 VDP per unit; is this division correct math or am I over simplifying the calculation?
    I am coming from the point of view of a guy that has less than 40 in stock at one time, I cannot compete (at least I think I cannot) with 10,000 VDP, but I can with 44.4 VDP.
    Also is there away to break out a buy-list by VDP as well as sold/in stock?
    Thanks for all you do!
    Kip

  • http://www.milesauto.com Kip Miles

    Dale, I am a ‘break it down to the simpliest number’ guy. If you divide KK’s 10,000 VDP by his 225 unit inventory you come up with 44.4 VDP per unit; is this division correct math or am I over simplifying the calculation?
    I am coming from the point of view of a guy that has less than 40 in stock at one time, I cannot compete (at least I think I cannot) with 10,000 VDP, but I can with 44.4 VDP.
    Also is there away to break out a buy-list by VDP as well as sold/in stock?
    Thanks for all you do!
    Kip

  • http://vAuto.com/ dpollak

    Kip,

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful questions. First, I prefer to look at SRPs per vehicle in inventory rather than VDPs per vehicle. The number of vehicles in inventory is one of the four factors that drive SRPs . Having said that however, I would never suggest to any dealer that they should increase inventory to drive more SRPs. The only justification for inventory unit adjustment is to control turn.

    The SRP per vehicle however, is a proper way of looking at relative performance without regard to the fact that one dealer may have many more vehicles in inventory than another. Note however that there is still a variable that may allow one dealer to get more SRPs in spite if the fact that they have fewer units. Do you know what that might be? How about the number of active shoppers on AutoTrader in your market for that month.

    In other words, what if Kocourek’s market has only 30,000 active shoppers while yours has 150,000. If that were the case, is it possible that you could drive more SRPs in spite of a lower unit inventory count? I think so, so you see this SRP game is really an interesting one. All I know for sure is that you and every other dealer must drive SRPs in order to get VDPs, in order to get traffic, which predictably correlates to sales. VDPs are the money metric, but SRPs is where the big variability exists.

    Regarding being able to build a buy list around the vehicles that are being searched for in your market most frequently, AutoTrader publishes what’s called their scarcity index. This is a long list of vehicles ranked by how often they’re being searched for. You’ll have to weed through a lot of odd ball cars to find the mainstream ones, but they are there. I’m working with AutoTrader to possibly find a way to make this list more manageable and more easily incorporated into your stocking tool, but right now it’s a manual process. Although it takes time and effort, it’s definitely worth doing. To the extent that you can get a lot full of cars that are of the type that customers on AutoTrader are looking for, you’ll get a lot more bang for your buck on AutoTrader, and most importantly more traffic and sales. You can also find SRPs and VDP metrics on stock units inside your vAuto merchandising tool.

    One last thought, Rich Kelley, the Used Car Director at the Germain Auto Group in Columbus, Ohio is really a bright guy and is spending a lot of time figuring this whole thing out. You might want to give him a call and talk about how he analyzes potential stock units based on their desirability from the shoppers’ perspective.

    It shouldn’t be lost on anyone reading this posting that there are many new fundamentals in the used car business in addition to all of the old ones. Wow, we’re all learning and figuring it out together.

    Thanks again for your thoughtful questions.

    Dale

  • http://vAuto.com dpollak

    Kip,

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful questions. First, I prefer to look at SRPs per vehicle in inventory rather than VDPs per vehicle. The number of vehicles in inventory is one of the four factors that drive SRPs . Having said that however, I would never suggest to any dealer that they should increase inventory to drive more SRPs. The only justification for inventory unit adjustment is to control turn.

    The SRP per vehicle however, is a proper way of looking at relative performance without regard to the fact that one dealer may have many more vehicles in inventory than another. Note however that there is still a variable that may allow one dealer to get more SRPs in spite if the fact that they have fewer units. Do you know what that might be? How about the number of active shoppers on AutoTrader in your market for that month.

    In other words, what if Kocourek’s market has only 30,000 active shoppers while yours has 150,000. If that were the case, is it possible that you could drive more SRPs in spite of a lower unit inventory count? I think so, so you see this SRP game is really an interesting one. All I know for sure is that you and every other dealer must drive SRPs in order to get VDPs, in order to get traffic, which predictably correlates to sales. VDPs are the money metric, but SRPs is where the big variability exists.

    Regarding being able to build a buy list around the vehicles that are being searched for in your market most frequently, AutoTrader publishes what’s called their scarcity index. This is a long list of vehicles ranked by how often they’re being searched for. You’ll have to weed through a lot of odd ball cars to find the mainstream ones, but they are there. I’m working with AutoTrader to possibly find a way to make this list more manageable and more easily incorporated into your stocking tool, but right now it’s a manual process. Although it takes time and effort, it’s definitely worth doing. To the extent that you can get a lot full of cars that are of the type that customers on AutoTrader are looking for, you’ll get a lot more bang for your buck on AutoTrader, and most importantly more traffic and sales. You can also find SRPs and VDP metrics on stock units inside your vAuto merchandising tool.

    One last thought, Rich Kelley, the Used Car Director at the Germain Auto Group in Columbus, Ohio is really a bright guy and is spending a lot of time figuring this whole thing out. You might want to give him a call and talk about how he analyzes potential stock units based on their desirability from the shoppers’ perspective.

    It shouldn’t be lost on anyone reading this posting that there are many new fundamentals in the used car business in addition to all of the old ones. Wow, we’re all learning and figuring it out together.

    Thanks again for your thoughtful questions.

    Dale

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