How to recondition in today’s environment

by dpollak on 01/30/2009 · 4 comments

Below is a question I recently received and my response:

Q:     I have read and wholeheartedly agree with Dales last couple of Posts at Velocity, Being a Franchise dealer the current wholesale price spikes are only amplified by the issue of how to balance a profit center in the Service Dept as well as the Used Car Dept. As an example a recent 05 Grand Cherokee that required 3 tires(used the new spare) and 4 wheel brakes, as any of the current off lease units over 30K requires, had an over $1400 RO. Basic reconditioning costs as far as I am concerned. Fortunately the overall condition was such that any further cosmetic issues were negligible but most of these units have at least front and rear covers an additional $300. Add in $170 recon and $2000 total recons are quite common. Not sure how the Mega Stores handle mechanical/cosmetic reconditioning, cannot imagine them, after what I have seen them pay for Grade 2-3 cars, adding in almost $2000 for recon and I know the Independent Used Car Lots do not have these types of costs.

We have a Managers Meeting on Monday to Review and throw some ideas around and I am looking for some “Outsider” Input. What are your feelings on this issue?

A:     Your question magnifies my concern about what guys are paying for these vehicles today.  You simply can’t afford to recondition these vehicles to the max and pay super high prices to acquire them. 

Recently I heard of an unconventional sales approach that is being tried with some success on the east coast.  There is an operation that lists their cars for sale for very attractive prices prior to doing their cosmetic and mechanical reconditioning.  The concept is that this dealership is completely upfront in their advertising as to the vehicle’s current condition.  This allows the buyer, who is attracted by a low price, to make the decision for themselves as to how much, if any of the reconditioning is performed post sale by either the dealer or a lower cost, 3rd party of their choice. I wish I could remember the name of the operation, but I can’t.  It’s really an interesting concept and one that I’m sure isn’t right for most dealers, but I thought of it when I read your question.

Thinking more conventionally, I would try and avoid paying so much for a vehicle that I couldn’t afford to give it adequate reconditioning care.  I would, however, suggest that reconditioning be performed with the greatest amount of discretion.  For example, I know that there were a whole bunch of outside parties that would commonly come on my lot, perform their repair and simply present me with the bills to sign.  Because these guys were my regular providers, I trusted them in terms of using their discretion as to what needed to be done.  As we probably all understand, these vendors were looking out for both my interest and theirs, and I was willing to accept that under normal conditions.  Today, however, I would require any and all such repairs like paint touch up, dent removal, upholstery repair, glass chips and the like to be pre-approved. I would also be sure that I had the same understanding with my own service department.

Thanks for the question.  

 

  • http://vAuto.com/ dpollak

    Thank you for the reply. I do have a good grasp on my physical recon costs and haven’t allowed any outside vendor dent/bumper repairs without prior inspection by me ever.

    My problem is with how best to deal with the Internal/Dealership mechanical recon costs to keep everyone somewhat happy. When it costs me $300+ for a front brake job that an Independent Used Car Lot without an Internal Service Profitability Goal does for $100, it makes it very difficult to hone Used Car profitability with acquisition costs being so high. Are any of your franchise dealers using a reduced internal labor rate? Cost +10% parts etc or do they use full cust labor rate and retail pricing on parts? Typically 100% markup?

    Bill

  • http://vAuto.com/ dpollak

    Bill,

    Sorry that I didn’t understand your precise pain. There’s no question that charging the used car department customer pay rates is a form of a pack. It’s very difficult to convince a dealer not to do this since it is their money. They’re just simply deciding which pocket to put it in.

    My position on packs (this form included) is that it is a dealers business as to whether to do it or not, but it becomes a problem for me (and you) when profit performance of the used car department is based on results where the packs are included in your costs. I would recommend that you have a discussion with your dealer that would allow both of you to evaluate results assuming a market rate for internal reconditioning repairs.

    Most definitely, do not price from packed costs or based on any cost at all. The fair price of an automobile should be properly determined by the retail market and not what you own it for. Does this make sense to you?

    Dale

  • http://vAuto.com dpollak

    Thank you for the reply. I do have a good grasp on my physical recon costs and haven’t allowed any outside vendor dent/bumper repairs without prior inspection by me ever.

    My problem is with how best to deal with the Internal/Dealership mechanical recon costs to keep everyone somewhat happy. When it costs me $300+ for a front brake job that an Independent Used Car Lot without an Internal Service Profitability Goal does for $100, it makes it very difficult to hone Used Car profitability with acquisition costs being so high. Are any of your franchise dealers using a reduced internal labor rate? Cost +10% parts etc or do they use full cust labor rate and retail pricing on parts? Typically 100% markup?

    Bill

  • http://vAuto.com dpollak

    Bill,

    Sorry that I didn’t understand your precise pain. There’s no question that charging the used car department customer pay rates is a form of a pack. It’s very difficult to convince a dealer not to do this since it is their money. They’re just simply deciding which pocket to put it in.

    My position on packs (this form included) is that it is a dealers business as to whether to do it or not, but it becomes a problem for me (and you) when profit performance of the used car department is based on results where the packs are included in your costs. I would recommend that you have a discussion with your dealer that would allow both of you to evaluate results assuming a market rate for internal reconditioning repairs.

    Most definitely, do not price from packed costs or based on any cost at all. The fair price of an automobile should be properly determined by the retail market and not what you own it for. Does this make sense to you?

    Dale

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